tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post6273454904637888585..comments2024-03-27T22:14:41.569+13:00Comments on .: Racism – A Recurring Scourge of Fiji -Crosbie Walshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02541276600232884176noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-72264706123661012542014-09-11T01:37:47.322+12:002014-09-11T01:37:47.322+12:00Here, here :) He lost me at the second sentence..&...Here, here :) He lost me at the second sentence.."Largely in the absence of anypopular resistance..." umm excuse me but weren't people silenced by threats of violence? Talk about selective memory and a skewed perspective and this article tops it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-28335105469272430772014-09-08T13:24:53.489+12:002014-09-08T13:24:53.489+12:00It is obvious by reading this article the writer i...It is obvious by reading this article the writer is blinded by his own ego, that he has almost completely misinterpreted everything that he is writing about. It is because of misinformation such as these that there will be always be victims, on both sides.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-90684391448080480762014-09-07T22:41:20.914+12:002014-09-07T22:41:20.914+12:00As a Methodist I assure you I don't identify F...As a Methodist I assure you I don't identify Frank as being of Methodist denomination. I can say I am whatever religion I am but actions speak louder then words and Methodist in Fiji have felt persecuted by Franks Regime so will think that FijiFirst will be of the same ilk.<br /><br />Majority of Methodist will not vote for Frank because Sodelpa is biased towards the Methodist denomination of Christianity as can be seen in their manifesto. That's part of politics you have to have a manifesto that biased to certain areas of the population where the main aim is to get elected. <br /><br />That's why it would be surprising for me for a Muslim or Hindu to chose Sodelpa and this is shown in the latest Tebutt poll in which less then one Percent of Indians choose Sodelpa as their party of choice. <br /><br />Frank religion is catholic based on his wiki page so not sure where you got the understanding that he was a Methodist. I love arguing with people that get their basic facts wrong, shows how shaky the rest of their arguments are.<br /><br />I believe in my opinion so strongly that am willing to wager something on it. What are the stakes I will bet that more indigenous Methodist will vote for Sodelpa then FijiFirst.<br />Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-60217153376270301002014-09-07T21:41:09.693+12:002014-09-07T21:41:09.693+12:00No I didnt say that Methodists in the village will...No I didnt say that Methodists in the village will identify with Frank (he is a Methodist). This is where I am having trouble following your line; you say people will vote according to their ethnicity and religion - by your own logic this therefore means that Methodists will vote for Frank, not for a Roman Catholic? Many Methodists voted for Rt Mara, a Catholic. So what exactly is the issue? Please tell us why Methodist i'taukei will not vote for Frank. There is something else you should tell us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-33883126878389191112014-09-07T15:46:30.594+12:002014-09-07T15:46:30.594+12:00From the last US election in 2012. 93% African A...From the last US election in 2012. 93% African Americans, 70% Latinos and 73% Asians voted or Obama while more then 60% of white males voted for Romney. Over 85% of Muslims also voted for Obama. These are all significant figures and show how Race and Religion is significant to elections in modern world.<br /><br />To argue argue race and religion will not have an effect on these elections which is more diverse in terms of language, culture and religion then USA, is in effect believing that Frank will lead us on a unicorn over the rainbow into the promised land.<br /><br />In terms of Mick Beddoes, there are also black Republican Candidates but its usually who the voter will identify with that is the key indicator of predicting elections. If you believe that the Methodist Fijian in the village identifies more with Frank then SODELPA candidates in their region then refer unicorns and rainbows. <br /><br />Good thing about arguing politics instead of policies is going forward we can actually see who has the more myopic view based on the Elections results. <br />Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-74505542394493965252014-09-07T15:06:53.956+12:002014-09-07T15:06:53.956+12:00Anon @ 11:08 Race or religion will have no beari...Anon @ 11:08 Race or religion will have no bearing on Muslim voters (or even Catholics, the Army and the PE's) this time around. They will vote for a i'taukei. That taukei being the leader of Fiji First. <br /><br />Only the i'taukei will be fixated on race at the polling booth as many of them will be voting on the basis of lies and fears stirred up by the 'So Help Me God Party' who have targeted them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-23237860355028928042014-09-07T11:49:05.904+12:002014-09-07T11:49:05.904+12:00If your thesis holds true, then how about Obama in...If your thesis holds true, then how about Obama in the US? Even though the leader of Fiji First is a 'taukei' you dont think the taukei will embrace him as their leader? Why not? Again your myopia on ethnic minorities; grouping Muslims, Catholics, Army (??) and part Europeans. Two religions, one organisational and the other an ethnic category. Your inclusion of the latter (PE) confounds me as there is a PE (Mick) standing for the SODELPA ticket. Are you suggesting he will not gain the votes of PE community? (not that it matters in the new voting system as we no longer have ethnic seats). CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-74145860123953166262014-09-07T11:08:46.866+12:002014-09-07T11:08:46.866+12:00Reason I am saying people vote based on their ethn...Reason I am saying people vote based on their ethnicity is that its nothing to do with intelligence its more an emotional response that is instilled in us through natural selection in which people that stick together had a better chance of surviving the elements then ones that didn't have that trait. So when selecting people to lead us we usually choose people from our own tribes, so you have to be well conditioned to go against this emotional response to choose a person from a different tribe. I don't believe Fiji has reached a level of maturity where majority of people will vote against their ethnicity and there aren't many examples in the world where this happens. Especially where countries are significantly racially and religiously divided.<br /><br />Not having a dig at Muslims just calling it as I see it as I am guessing the majority of FijiFirst supporters would come from Muslims, Catholics, Army and part Europeans. <br /><br />My understanding is Muslims make up around 7 percent or around 60,000 of Fiji's population and not sure why you would think am targeting them, its just opinion on how they will vote in the election based on my understanding of current situation in Fiji.<br /><br />So who do you think the majority of Muslims in Fiji will vote for in the election or you do you think that religion and race of a candidate has no bearing on a muslim voter?Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-6237455710476949612014-09-07T10:47:43.276+12:002014-09-07T10:47:43.276+12:00@ Baleta .....your argument that people in Fiji ...@ Baleta .....your argument that people in Fiji cant think and vote beyond their own ethnicity ...is an insult to their intelligence. And whats with the dig at the Muslims? You have been in Australia too long which explains your paranoia about 'foreigners' and Muslims especially. Muslims in Fiji comprise less than three percent of the population'. Stop targeting ethnic and religious minorities; they have never been a problem in Fiji.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-70646641134513216412014-09-07T09:20:07.610+12:002014-09-07T09:20:07.610+12:00Last week if someone told me that SODELPA will onl...Last week if someone told me that SODELPA will only get 20 percent of the vote. I would have told them that that I have a bridge in Nausori that I am willing to sell them. As its not logical for me for that in a racially divided country like Fiji, the majority of people will votes for person that is ethnically, religiously and culturally different to themselves especially when they have major leaders that they can identify with. Just doesn't happen in developing nations<br /><br />Now after the debacle in Syria, I am sure the results will be even worse except for the base Muslim vote which will probably be stronger for Fijifirst.Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-33401296141685369412014-09-07T09:08:26.968+12:002014-09-07T09:08:26.968+12:00Aboriginal Life Expectancy for males is around 69 ...Aboriginal Life Expectancy for males is around 69 which and has improved over the last five years. To argue that Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islanders are not treated better by Social Services and their treatment and role in Australian Society has not improved is so false that for me I question your motives. <br /><br />To me this shows problems with superficial arguments and not fully understanding depth of what is happening in a country. That's biggest issue I have with FijiFirst supporters is that they argue superficially on what Franks and Khaiyum are saying but not actually what is happening on the ground.<br /><br />Growing up in Australia the majority of people I interacted with considered me as Aboriginal. So some of my closest friends were aboriginal and now my kids best friend is an aboriginal. So after coming back to Australia after many years in Fiji, I have seen a huge change in the way the indigenous are perceived in Australian society and also the amount of social services and beneficial treatment that is available to them. I believe that that change is largely because of the amount of immigration that has occurred and Aboriginals having significantly more influence in the Media. One of the best examples is NITV.<br /><br />I agree that that in terms of quality of life the indigenous people of Australia are worse off then a lot of other Australians but that does not mean that the indigenous people of Australia's quality of life has not improved. It does show though that different racial groups can function in a successful modern society and positive discrimination can work.Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-36948998886944809002014-09-07T06:50:34.125+12:002014-09-07T06:50:34.125+12:00They never had any chance of winning did they? Not...They never had any chance of winning did they? Not exactly an even battlefield from the word go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-7289010386207436392014-09-07T06:47:18.319+12:002014-09-07T06:47:18.319+12:00Tell that to Bainimarama. The soldiers should have...Tell that to Bainimarama. The soldiers should have been trained to fight a battle and not its own citizensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-80601479958823773182014-09-07T05:20:54.658+12:002014-09-07T05:20:54.658+12:00SODELPA supporters are beside themselves over the ...SODELPA supporters are beside themselves over the latest Fiji Times-Tebbutt Poll, which accounts for their growing hysteria. Bainimarama 49 per cent, Ro Teimumu Kepa 20 per cent, 15 per cent undecided. Both will be trying to get the undecideds in the next 10 days but even if SODELPA gets them all, it has lost the election. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-39282415753599427342014-09-07T05:14:34.525+12:002014-09-07T05:14:34.525+12:00You are the cowardly piece of "shyte" po...You are the cowardly piece of "shyte" posting a snippet of character assassination under "Anonymous". What a low life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-88579052543559260302014-09-06T23:23:25.711+12:002014-09-06T23:23:25.711+12:00And where is the cowardly regime UN scumbag Peter ...And where is the cowardly regime UN scumbag Peter Thompson? We have not heard a word from this cowardly piece of shyte since the brave Fiji military UN sleaze keepers surrendered to who cares? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-62948854585600744752014-09-06T23:04:27.117+12:002014-09-06T23:04:27.117+12:00Tikoitoga. Have you got your innocent soldiers cap...Tikoitoga. Have you got your innocent soldiers captured by the islamists released yet? Get your finger out you gutless wonder. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-47759019395786790072014-09-06T22:10:54.881+12:002014-09-06T22:10:54.881+12:00Welcome to both. They are trying to remove the can...Welcome to both. They are trying to remove the cancerous scourge destroying Fiji.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-73292313636265829912014-09-06T22:04:39.966+12:002014-09-06T22:04:39.966+12:00Anon 2 8.44 PM.......Aboriginal & Torres Islan...Anon 2 8.44 PM.......Aboriginal & Torres Islanders are "Tretaed significantly better..." etc. <br /><br />What a load of hogwash! <br /><br />They don't even own vast tracts of their own land! They have a lower life expectancy than others in the developing world etc....etc....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-50073367008586889222014-09-06T22:00:55.146+12:002014-09-06T22:00:55.146+12:00Include a polticized GCC and Methodist Church, bot...Include a polticized GCC and Methodist Church, both being vectors for radical Fijian ethno-nationalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-17070965140292710952014-09-06T21:59:00.353+12:002014-09-06T21:59:00.353+12:00What has that got to do with the progress in Fiji?...What has that got to do with the progress in Fiji? There should have been more soldiers at the base with rules of engagement in favor of Fiji. Better equipped with heavy machine guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-40153321612012165872014-09-06T20:52:55.719+12:002014-09-06T20:52:55.719+12:00Perhaps you should tell this chin dribbling crap t...Perhaps you should tell this chin dribbling crap to the islamists who have captured Fijians and are threatening to commit them to sharia law?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-62228725223186114432014-09-06T20:44:25.226+12:002014-09-06T20:44:25.226+12:00The biggest question for ordinary citizens going i...The biggest question for ordinary citizens going into this election is are they better off now then when they were eight years ago and this usually means quality of life issues. I am guessing in terms of disposable income many ordinary citizens are significantly worse off.<br /><br />I disagree about being divided into racial groups. Canada and Australia are usually ranked in the top three countries to live in and one of the most significant factors about both of those countries is the improvement in how they treat the indigenous people of their countries. <br /><br />In Australia by being of Aboriginal or Torres Trait Islander descent you are treated significantly better by social services then other racial groups. Goes back to the question of fairness being one o equity or equality where I argue aiming for equity is more important for a functional society in todays world.Baletanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-27537970377178040362014-09-06T18:33:04.568+12:002014-09-06T18:33:04.568+12:00The changes Bainimarama has made to the ordinary p...The changes Bainimarama has made to the ordinary people in Fiji is significant. He sees the problems people face in their daily lives and he goes out of his way to help their situation. His government sees what has been working in overseas and he implements the best suited to help Fijians. The progress made is substantial moving towards a modern society and a fully equipped Fiji. This comes with excellent vision. At times there were no doctors at Nadi Hospital. Who fixed this? Simple things which are not done properly irritates this great man. <br /><br />When an issue needs tackling just follow global standards and get it done. Multiracialism should be promoted. Racial discrimination should not be condoned and a legislative effort is required for a more specific anti-discrimination law. Collectively we can make profound changes. Not by divided racial groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727226025187579533.post-77281584100096606512014-09-06T15:15:49.503+12:002014-09-06T15:15:49.503+12:00Do you mean the RFMF? If so I agree. These thugs a...Do you mean the RFMF? If so I agree. These thugs are the true cancer that has infected Fijian society. Their corruption is as legendary as their braveness when it comes to beating unarmed civilians. On the battlefield they are rated a bit lower than average.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com