Cogito, ergo sum. I think, therefore I am. (René Descartes, mathematician and philosopher,1599-1650)

Tuesday 12 June 2012

Aussie and Kiwi "Criminals"

Interviewed by Radio Australia, Dr Wadan Narsey argues that Australia and NZ should declare their citizens criminals —as they do for paedophiles and terrorists— if they work to support illegal regimes like Fiji. But he exempts those "who are trying to do positive and constructive things, you know, to try and get the country back to a lawful and democratic government." His problem is with the people who have justified "the overthrow of a lawful government, or ... have taken part in processes which have compromised the judiciary or have compromised the ministerial portfolios" but he does not say how one objectively distinguishes between the two categories.


He also criticized ANZ for imposing travel bans, not only on those taking part in the coup, but on their relatives as well."That," he said, " infringes on their basic human rights. I mean,  you are not responsible for your relatives,. You are responsible for your own actions."

Comment. Reverse logic would have the Fiji government criminalising its citizens living abroad who work for the Australian or New Zealand governments or supported their policies on Fiji.  I don't think either idea is practical —or democratic.  But they do show original thinking.

 On Wadan's interview FijiToday said: "Not helpful at this point in time."


What Grubsheet had to say.  http://www.grubsheet.com.au/?p=2116

11 comments:

Lesley said...

There's a fine line between genius and insanity and this man has crossed it. After this interview how can you take what Dr Wadan Narsey says as serious and credible? What on earth motivates his thinking? Comparing those who are helping and working with the Fijian Government with paedophiles and terrorists is madness. Advice to Dr Narsey - think before you speak.
"Do you see a man who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for him." Proverbs 29:20

Hello Insanity said...

Dr. Narsey pleadings with the media is nothing more than the desperate cries of a disgruntled man bemoaning his irrelavancy. Dr. Narsey will say and do anything, however ludicrous, just to feel that he still matters. Does he seriously think that criminalizing those helping out will in some magical way advance the democratic process more rapidly? Or is he really asking the Australian and NZ governments to punish those who have ruffled his feathers in the past? Dr. Narsey is not about democracy.
This connection

Anonymous said...

This man's arrogance and pride have come to the surface through his comments and no doubt he is the chamcha of his brother-in-law Dr Brij Lal who share the same song sheet but do not have audience that matter - those from their own community! Where were these two when Qarase and his racist bigots were persecuting Indo-Fijians under the cover of democracy, thousands lost their farms and homes and became destitute. Today, this low life uses Coup 4.5 that is anti-Indian to the extreme, to echo his diatribe. Clearly, he cannot distinguish between light and darkness. Let him rot in Australia - Fiji does not need him.

Anonymous said...

This man's arrogance and pride have come to the surface through his comments and no doubt he is the chamcha of his brother-in-law Dr Brij Lal who share the same song sheet but do not have audience that matter - those from their own community! Where were these two when Qarase and his racist bigots were persecuting Indo-Fijians under the cover of democracy, thousands lost their farms and homes and became destitute. Today, this low life uses Coup 4.5 that is anti-Indian to the extreme, to echo his diatribe. Clearly, he cannot distinguish between light and darkness. Let him rot in Australia - Fiji does not need him.

Anonymous said...

How can anyone take Narsey seriously after this?

Islands in the Stream said...

A March of Folly began inside Fiji a long time ago. It has carried many in its wide embrace. This march is moving towards an inexorable, inevitable culmination. Let us remind ourselves again:

" Aware of the controlling power of ambition, corruption and emotion, it may be that in the search for wiser government we should look for the test of character first. And the test should be moral courage. Montaigne adds, 'Resolution and valour, not that which is sharpened by ambition but that which wisdom and reason may implant in a well-ordered soul'.

(Barbara W. Tuchman - The March of Folly : 1984)

So, now we know. We have long known. The test is 'moral courage', it is also the repudiation of lies and lying and those who resort to perjury. Ultimately, it is we ourselves who are to be put to the test. It deals with those who persistently follow "A Pursuit of Policy contrary to self-interest".

For the ambitious and budding politicians, Barbara Tuchman quotes from Gulliver's Travels:

"The Lilliputians in choosing persons for public employment had similar criteria. 'They have more regard for good morals than for great abilities - for since government is necessary to mankind, they believe...that Providence never intended to make management of publick (sic) affairs a mystery, to be comprehended only by a few persons of sublime genius, of which there are seldom three born in an age. They suppose TRUTH, JUSTICE, TEMPERANCE and the like to be in every man's power".

So government should be open to Everyman and Everywoman today.

"And I can see no reason why anyone should suppose that in the future the same motifs already heard will not be sounding still ...put to use by reasonable men to reasonable ends, or by madmen to nonsense and disaster".

(Joseph Campbell - 1969 Foreword to The Masks of God: Primitive Mythology)

There are ideas sufficient for any task and any outcome here. Let us take heed of them.

A Beggared Imagination said...

It does not require genius to determine that the misuse of Public Money, the heisting of public funds for private and personal gain defies all definitions of Best Practices in governance. Transparency is required before accountability may be applied. No lesser person than Aung San Suu Kyi said this last night in her interview with Fergal Keane on the day of delivery of her Nobel Peace Prize Speech in Oslo. How is it possible that public funds are used to remunerate persons without full transparency: to what precise and specific purpose? To issue egregious and gratuitous threats to those who so obligingly and painfully part with them? A more insulting conduct would beggar imagining. Indeed, it is a consumate failure of our own imagination that we permit this to continue without challenge. Imagination and Creativity: two key words for the amelioration of any economy anywhere in the globe. A Gift to the Greeks and by extension to us all?

A very precise accounting must be maintained for the use of all public funds (over seven years) and most especially their use in remuneration of all recipients: no matter for what use. Since when has a conflict of interest not applied to nepotism? The first component of corruption by any objective yardstick. No potential, credible investor will see beyond this Great Wall. Those who do not are playing with marked cards.

O cursed spite...! said...

For the players with marked cards, no doubt?

"O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain! My tables - meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;
At least I'm sure it may be so in Denmark".

"The time is out of joint; O cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right!"

Hamlet (1601) Act 1 sc.5

Apologies to Juliet said...

Ode to Dr Wadan Narsey

Oh Wadan Wadan, wherefore art thou Wadan,
Deny thy brother-in-law, and refuse thy NFP roots,
And if thou wilt not,
At least admit that you are angry and revengeful,
And then I shall no longer be a Fijian.
Tis not just your name that is my enemy,
What is in a name?
After all, a rose by any any other name would smell as sweet,
Tis your peculiar logic and angry
venom that brands you as a man who has lost all objectivity.

Anonymous said...

I see he protests too much in response to his critics. A man who is good at dishing out dirt is never very good at taking dirt himself.

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